Showing posts with label Hungarian language. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hungarian language. Show all posts

Sunday, May 3, 2026

MY FRIEND TRAVELS BACK TO HUNGARY and WORRIES ABOUT HIS RETURN FLIGHT IN JUNE BEING CANCELLED and a TRUE TRAVEL STORY

The third week in April, my Hungarian-American friend, who I met through genealogy, and who enjoys dual-citizenship, called me from the San Francisco airport. He had promised a call before he left for two months in Hungary and did so after going through customs and awaiting a boarding call. He'd purposely decided to fly Swiss Air - a neutral country. He bought a round trip ticket, but friends in Europe told him they were not sure about the availability of oil - fuel - and that there might be a possibility that the airline would be able to keep its promise of a round trip ticket. What with the wars -  Russia - Iran - etc.

In which case, how would he get home?

We joked about the movie Plains, Trains, and Automobiles. He mentioned Vienna being only 120 miles from Budapest and the industrious Austrians and Germans possibly being better able to obtain plane fuel. We jokingly imaged him rowing a boat across the Atlantic with one paddle.

"I'm going to go, forget my troubles in the United States, and have a good time, and try not to worry," he said. But I could tell he was plenty worried. Because Russia and Hungary were not having a good relationship over the last few months over the war in Ukraine, he said. And also that Orban, in his opinion, had been in power twenty years (not just sixteen) and had done a good job the first three terms. What was Hungary going to be like this visit with the new administration?

But it brought to mind this true story, which took place about twenty five years ago, and which I told him.

I met two sisters at a library. On was employed as a temporary worker and pretty much supporting her immigrant mother and disabled sister. The temp worker had a few weeks with no assignment and - and, as was possible back in that day - told the agency she needed the time off anyway *** The two sisters then had a very inexpensive six week vacation traveling, for which they spent about $3000.

They took the little local community shuttle near their home to the closest train station and arrived at Union Station in downtown Los Angeles. From there they took a train that passed through Albuquerque, New Mexico and then went on to Florida. In Fort Lauderdale they got on a cruise ship that had a lot of cabins empty for a cruise and got a deal. The ship sailed the Atlantic to Portugal. From Portugal they traveled to Paris. The only night they had nowhere to sleep was in Paris, but they spent it at an all night café drinking coffee! The best place outside Budapest to be up all night drinking coffee. (They had so much to eat on the cruise, they felt no need to eat.) After finding an affordable B & B near Paris and traveling around Paris and locale, they took the bus that goes through the tunnel under the Channel to England and spent time in London. From there they traveled to Liverpool, where they booked on another inexpensive cruise and sailed the Atlantic to New York City. In New York they got on a train that went to Chicago, and then south, and arrived back in Union station in Los Angeles. Then, once again, the community shuttle home...

Think of how little they spent!

 (*** and returned to find they hadn't dumped her and soon got a decent permanent job from a temp assignment.).


Monday, April 6, 2026

DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR HUNGARIAN SURNAME MEANS? DO YOU PRONOUNCE IT CORRECTLY?

Many people - including me - go for years not knowing what their Hungarian surname translates to.  Sometimes changes in spelling by ancestors makes it a little different. There are versions that are "Germanic" if not German, Slovak, etc.

It is also not uncommon for Americans with Hungarian surnames to go through life with the surname pronounced in some other-that-Hungarian-way.

I would like to hear from you on this subject!


Friday, March 27, 2026

CROWS MAY BE SMARTER THAN A SEVEN YEAR OLD HUMAN


Excerpt from YouTube station reYOUniverse...

How crows revealed Archimedes' principle. Why crows have been painstakingly taking revenge on a resident of India for many years. What do crows prefer - cash or bank cards? And how come that with a brain the size of a hazelnut crows are smarter than many monkeys? 

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I like to post pictures of crows and crow information from time to time, not only because I've been fascinated watching these birds, but because they are associated with the Magyars on certain family crests...

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Varjú (pronounced: vahr-yoo) is Hungarian for the English word crow.


Wednesday, February 4, 2026

BENCH (What does it say?)

 


THE LOVE OF OUR MOTHER AND FATHER IS IN US?
THE LOVE OF OUR MOTHER OF GOD IS IN US?

HUNGARIAN SPEAKERS!  LEAVE A COMMENT!

Saturday, March 8, 2025

FUN LEARNING WITH HUNGARICANA #5 : DYNAMIC BUDAPEST TIME MACHINE : LAND REGISTRIES, CITY DIRECTORIES, and SO MUCH MORE FOR HISTORY AND FAMILY GENEALOGY RESEARCH!

This aspect of Hungaricana is truly dynamic. There is just so much to explore.  You can use maps to see how the city transformed, find out who died in the 1956 Hungarian revolution, look at land ownership registers

HUNGARICANA BUDAPEST TIME MACHINE START PAGE

"The Time Machine is ideal for deep research as well as relaxation."

You will have to play a bit with this aspect of the Hungaricana databases. but for the purposes of this blog, we will look at what is available about a particular lot:

HUNGARICANIA : LOT 24008 1056 BUDAPESTHelyrajziSzam/24008/.
You see there is information as far back as year 1688 about this property. There is a topography map and a map of present day Budapest, showing the eateries and that this property on Iranyi Street is about a three block walk to the Danube.



I encourage you to click on a whole lot of links and find your way around the TIME MACHINE...

If you are not Hungarian speaking, you will probably need the Translator to understand what the links hold.

Hungarian Genealogy and History Tips in this series can be viewed together by clicking on the tab Hungaricana Fun

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Wednesday, February 19, 2025

750 MAGYAR FOLK SAYINGS : SOME OF THESE WORDS OF WISDOM MAY SOUND FAMILIAR

Paczolay Gyula : 750 MAGYAR KOZMONDAS 

So many folk tales and sayings teach values, customs, and ways of life. Some of these will sound so familiar to Americans that one will wonder if the saying originated in Hungary or not.  Others are clearly from a time when agricultural life was the norm.

The sayings about a good wife being a beaten one make me cringe.  

But take a look at the use of the Hungarian language here: References to dogs, cats, pigs, goats, wolves, geese and sparrows, hares, ox - ropes and hanging, trees and weather, priests and Slovaks and Wallachians to discover the attitudes about life that made these sayings roll off the lips of the Hungarians.

Enjoy looking through these.

Some excerpts:

Okos disznó mély gyökeret ránt.

Amit főztél, edd is meg!

What you have cooked, you should eat as well.

You have to take the responsibility for your action.

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Gúzsba kötve táncol.

He danced bound hand and foot.

He tries hard but has very little freedom of movement or action.

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Szemérmes koldusnak üres a táskája.

A shy beggar has an empty scrip.

Wednesday, December 18, 2024

HUNGARY : A GOOD PLACE TO RETIRE? A BAD PLACE TO GO AS A TOURIST?

Are Hungarians burned out on tourists? Unsmiling pessimists? Not willing to work in tourism and letting immigrant workers deal with tourists?

Is Hungary a great place for an American ex-pat to retire on social security? I hear the buying power is three times as much as in America.

These interactions occurred in recent days.

I talked to a Hungarian "cousin" who spends six months of the year living in Budapest, where he owns an apartment. He says he is "at peace" there, which he is not in the United States. In the U.S. he lives in a major city.  He is educated, intellectual, and artistic, and after many years in the U.S. he is also based here - marriage, children, grandchildren.

"You should get your Hungarian citizenship," he said. (He means duel citizenship.)  He urged me to walk into the consulate with my genealogy and I said "But there's a language requirement and I won't pass."  He said no there is not.  I quiet and look it up later - there most certainly is.

How difficult it is to pass a Hungarian language exam in order to get Hungarian citizenship is controversial.  Online you can read every opinion and experience about it. Easy! Difficult. 

Soon after speaking with him on the phone - outside a library where, upon the call coming in, I rushed out with book I had not checked out and sounded off alarms, I came in and apologized for the mishap. I explained I'd been waiting on the call and soon a library clerk came over to me.

"I just came back from Budapest and we had a horrible time."

According to this person, she and her traveling party, four women, had tried to speak Hungarian and thought they had done fairly well. This was a longed for and saved for vacation. However, she said people were not even willing to give them directions to the bus and were, overall, not nice to them. Then she said, "And they are racist." Since this woman could pass for a Hungarian I asked her what she meant. "One of the women traveling with us is from India. I think they snubbed us because they thought she's a Rom...."

Hmmmmmmm.

Any experience or opinion YOU want to share?  Leave me a comment!


Tuesday, October 22, 2024

THE AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN EMPIRE : GALICIA : CADASTRAL MAPS : HOUSE NUMBERS : GENEALOGY GEN-TIPS SERIES #7

THE AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN EMPIRE : GALICIA : CADASTRAL MAPS : HOUSE NUMBERS : GENEALOGY GEN-TIPS SERIES #7

PLACE NAME WORDS OF HUNGARIAN SETTLEMENTS - THE ROOTS WORDS  and OLD MAPS OF HUNGARY

My intention here is to help the English speaker and reader make sense of Hungarian place names so that they will feel more familiar. You will see some of these word "roots" all over the maps!

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OLD MAPS ONLINE - HUNGARY  (Yes, yet another map resource.)

This is a list of root words.

HAZA - Home

HAZ - House

HELY - Place

FALU - Village

FALUSKA - Hamlet  (Suggests very few inhabitants, maybe around a bend or in a valley, smaller than a village)

KISVAROS - Small town

NAGYVAROS - Big town

VAROS - City or Town

UTCA - Street

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PATAK - Creek (Smaller waterway than a stream)

FOLYAM - Stream

FOLYO - River

TO - Lake  (accent over o)

OCEAN - Ocean

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SATOR - Tent  (Used to describe the look of a hill or mountain.)

PUSZTA - Villa or Big House (at least compared to the average house in the neighborhood.)

KASTELY - Castle  (Applied also to large houses.  Does not mean there is a fortress or moat.)

ISTALLO - Barn

TEMPLOM - Church

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UJ - New

REJI - Old

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MEGYE - County 

Note about names of colors for settlements, rivers, and so on... Sometimes places were named, not because they looked white or black or red or yellow, but because the color indicated a direction.  I realize this could be map-centric.  White would be north, Black would be south.  So for instance The Black Sea is South of where?

FEHER - White or Light Color

FEKETE - Black or Dark Color

PIROS - Red

SARGA - Yellow


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Wednesday, March 13, 2024

WHAT ARE "AMERICAN SPACES" IN HUNGARY? THE EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES PROVIDES LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HUNGARIANS

AMERICAN SPACES : UNITED STATE EMBASSY IN HUNGARY : EDUCATION 

  • Educational advising for those who want to study in the U.S.,
  • Workshops on a range of topics from career skills to English language learning,
  • Classes and clubs introducing new technologies, 21st century digital skills, and academic resources,
  • Films, discussions, and lectures on entrepreneurship, leadership, current events, international affairs, and much more.

Saturday, February 17, 2024

PROJECT GUTENBERG HOLDINGS INCLUDE MANY BOOKS IN HUNGARIAN

Project Gutenberg aims to bring you books to download and read at no charge and without a library card. 

Here is the start page for a search using the word 'Hungarian' :

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=Hungarian&submit_search=Go%21

These books are often what is considered to be classic Hungarian literature.

Saturday, November 4, 2023

HEREND MANUFACTORY : SEE THE MUSEUM - TAKE A TOUR OR A CLASS! HEREND HUNGARY : WONDERFUL PLACES IN HUNGARY #20

Perhaps you would like to own some chess pieces or a religious statue or perhaps the latest figurines of tortoise or tigers.  Perhaps you would simply like to eat off fine porcelain plates or pour tea from a porcelain tea pot or put your flowers in a special vase. Well, it will set you back a few hundred to many thousands of dollars. You can purchase in Canada or in the United States and other locations. But if you happen to be in Hungary...

Herend is the finest porcelain in Hungary and has been around for quite some time since 1826.

According to a German website the Herend Manufactory is the largest of its kind in the world and everything is down in century old traditional ways, each and every phase by expert skilled crafts persons.

While sometimes someone sells on e-bay, these are collector's items.

I found this video that is simply wonderful.  It features deaf sign language and even a scene in which a Hungarian deaf signer is translating!  And scenes of the artists finally painting the porcelain.

JOEL BARISH : VIDEOS : HEREND TOUR Joel has traveled the world and is the founder of Deaf Nation. 

Click on the label Wonderful-Hungary to get to the entire series on this theme.

Saturday, March 4, 2023

1867 COMPROMISE MILITARY RECORDS - WHEN AUSTRIA RULED HUNGARY : TRANSLATING THE DOCUMENTS : HUNGARIAN GENEALOGY PRO TIP # 2

1867 COMPROMISE MILITARY RECORDS - WHEN AUSTRIA RULED HUNGARY : TRANSLATING THE DOCUMENTS : HUNGARIAN GENEALOGY PRO TIP # 2 

Depending on church records mostly for your research, you may find notations on marriages in particular that the groom is an officer -  tiszt,  or a soldier - hajdu, or you might see the word hadsereg - army. (Some men married by proxy while serving!) There might be a notation on a child's baptism that the father is serving. 

I'm using FamilySearch TM and the following records to discuss how to use these.  

Specifically, I'm using the following record group.

Katonai nyilvantartasi jegyzek 1863-1888   (List of Military Records) 

Gonc  Hadkiegeszito Parancsnoksag (Main Author)

Published in 1962 by Filmre vette a Genealogical Society of Utah 

I'm using film #008737879 and film #008737839 (but there are four categories available.)

These are Muster Rolls from the Gonc Military District.

There are notes that this film covers the years 1866-1876 (and birth dates 1841-46 and 1850 - 1856, suggesting that there are missing pages for men born 1847-1849) However another film many include some men born during that period.

These records are from Abauj county.  Before the split up of Hungary, Abauj county had much more territory than it does now, when parts of it are now Slovakia and towns now have Slovak names.  So these records have the potential to cover a lot of territory.

Some of the places mentioned include Goncruska, Szanto, Telki Banya, Fony, Crizoly, Also Reymecz, Ujfalu, Felso Dobfzu, Hejcze, Hermad Keres, ...

Gonc (also seen in archival records as Goncz and Gontz) was historically a civic center, a place of governmental administration, though it appears to be a small, unimportant town today. These military records include those men who came from the surrounding area. The four categories hold records that are thousands of pages and no index is forthcoming. In fact, I sense that the original records that FamilySearch microfilmed decades ago in archives within Hungary, were intended as a kind of index. But more on that later. *********

My experience:

First of all the FamilySearch SEARCH function in which you put in the film number was not working. I'd taken down the number 8737879 on notes and tried to use it in their SEARCH feature to bring it up. It did not work. I tried it with and without the 00 in front of the number.  I tried it multiple times.

Therefore, you may have to bring these up by going into the CATALOG function. Search in the CATALOG for Gonc (the name of the town) and then choose military records. You'll see the word Gonc twice as it is the town AND the Military District

Across the top of the records you will see columns/categories of information which are in Hungarian and sometimes in Hungarian and Old German lettering. Some of these were not properly written in the first place. So here are the corrections, sans the accent marks.

THE COLUMNS  

(Please note that this discussion covers the version used quite a bit but there is also a shorter version and a longer version existing on this film.)

1) a kozseg neve de osszeir asi jegyzekenek szama

This translates to "the name of the group and the number of notes."

In general this means "Where the person is from" because the name of the group is named after the town.  (This does not necessarily mean that this is where a soldier was born but think of it was where the person was living when it came time to serve in the military.  And there is a good chance it is also where they were born.)

On pages to the far left you will see a list of numbers, and that is where they hand wrote the numbers of notes otherwise thought of as "items."

2) Sorz szam

This translates to "Serial Number" and I see that this column is often blank.

3) A hadkötelesnek csaladi es kereszt vagy elo neve

This translates to "The conscript's family name and first and last name."

This sounds awkward.  It might be thought of as "soldier's name, first and last" however, I believe it is stated this way because sometimes a "family name" is not the same as the soldier's first and last name. This is because there is an understanding that some people come from a "House" such as a Noble House or a Clan (which would be the family name) and within that House  or Clan they have another name.  For instance, as a made up example, a person might be going by the name Janos Kovacs but come from a noble lineage Andrassy. On other records you might also see this written Janos Kovacs alias Andrassy.  There could be a variety of surnames that are associated with the House or Clan, harkening back to the ancient days. After looking at hundreds of pages, I haven't seen this written in, but the column heading allows for that possibility. Instead we are finding a first and last (or surname) simply with notation that the person is a noble. 

4) Szuletesi i eve

Translates to "year of birth."  Ahmm.  Birthday

Usually only a year is given.  But this is where you must be careful not to assume. The records are arranged so that the men are listed by year born, and the older they are, the earlier that year. And the older they are - in general - the LATER they are on the record/film. It's too bad full birth dates are not given. 

As I click along, reading page after page, I see that some effort is also made to group men by their home location.

5) szylet es helye  

translation? year and place  Think Location, Location, Location,

jaras is singular form of jarasok translating to district.  The Hungarian megye (county) was further divided by districts. Think of an American county, further divided by Townships.

megye means county

orszag means country

In general I see the name of a town listed again, often matching the first one mentioned.  So a man served or was in the reserves fairly close to home.

 6) vallas allapot - religious background

These records include men of Catholic (R.K.), Reform (Ref.) (Protestant), and Jewish background. They overall include people of all religious backgrounds. Greek Catholic (Gr.C.) may indicate that the family has Carptho-Rus (Ruthenian, Rusyn) heritage, or Ukrainian, or Slovak.  Evangelical (Eve) indicates they are Lutheran, indicating the family may have German heritage. Zsido is the term used for Jewish, though I have also seen Israelite (Isr).

Notlen - unmarried

Nos - married

Gyermek - child  (implied is a father)

vagy azok or those

nelkul - without

(Who would make a better recruit? A man who needs to support a family or man who won't leave a wife and children if he dies in military service?)

7 - 10) 

tudasa - awareness  (i.e. is this person intelligent? informed?  Educated? Have any special skills?)

olvasus - reading

iras - writing

zene - music

mesterseg - handyman

(This is about a man's education, and so how he might be useful to the military.  I like that they ask if the person knows music. Implied he plays an instrument or sings which might be useful if they march.)

11) az atyanak csaladi kereszt vagy eloneve

This translates to the father's family cross or first name...

The "family cross" is implied to be the family shield/ name, again this refers to noble House or Clan.

What I see in general is the name of parents (implied unmarried soldier) or the name of a wife (if married) but read across-

12) haz szam helyseg kozseg hol a hadkote les lakik

translates to "house number, location, district, where the soldier lives."

If this is filled out, it could be interesting.  It might tie into church records and other census.  It's a possible lead or secondary document.  

13) test nagy saga translates to the saga of the body or body story  hmmm....

test nagy saga translates to... I admit this word choice seems strange but it seems to be saying... "According to the little bird."  And we used to say "A little bird told me..." to indicate gossip - something personal.

Roughly, what does this person say about their health? How big are they? Basically it appears to be all about how TALL they are, and based on contemporary heights, these men are seemingly about as tall as Napoleon...  I see this column is left empty quite a bit.

On some forms:

mell merteke - breast courage  indicates a measurement size of chest . They need uniforms. (I see a soldier standing straight up to full height and sticking out their chest!)

Overall I'm reminded that people seem to have grown taller through the decades, because we have better nutrition. 

14) lelet az utolso allitasnal   Finding with the last alliteration/statement.

le lett az utolso   The last one is down.

Let's try the German :  

befund bei der bebten stellung  means "findings in the trembling position"?...

So - my genealogy friends - this seems to be asking "When the going gets rough, how does this man bear up? How does he act? Does he have courage? Or is he a weakling?

Hajdu means soldier.  So when I see hajdu written in, I figure that man has passed some test of courage or endurance or wit.

15) az ava stasi bizott many lelete reszrol  Findings /basis for findings by the committee/ commission

Katona - Military   Polgar - Civil

The absence of notes in this column indicate to me that this was probably only used if a soldier got himself in some trouble and therefore had to go into some review in which he was judged and some determination was made.

16)  az avatottnak be osztas  - for the initiated

iranti  - on

ki va - who is

na ta  - so there you are

I tried a translation from the German and it was worse.  asically, I believe this column is to express information on who is who, what their rank is. 

17) az avatas napja az ezred - the day of initiation is the regiment

Hadtest - corps

vagy osztaly neve - or class name

melyhez beosztatott - to which he was assigned

18) eszrevetel - perception (final assessment overall)

Other words encountered:

korostaly - old age.  These men are not elderly, they're just a bit older, still in their early twenties, so what is indicated is that they have probably nearer to ending their term of service.

Further the record will state where the person is stationed, if it is not in their hometown. In general it appears that most men served fairly close to their hometown, which probably made visiting family, taking care of personal adult responsibilities, and especially, being a reservist, easier on them and their families. These were agriculture economies in which the men's labor was very much needed.

Commentary:

The records are and are not arranged as one might expect.

Alphabetical, yes, however only by first letter. That means that it may appear to be fully alphabetical, taking into consideration every letter in a surname in some places, but do not be too quick to think the surname you seek is not listed  If the surname you are using begins with Sz, look through ALL of the letter S.  And so on.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023

SANDOR PETOFI : POEMS WRITTEN IN HUNGARIAN and TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH

I learned that when it comes to translating poetry written in the Hungarian language, there can be a number of translations. 

I use a number of translation opportunities on the Internet, including the one Google offers.  I can't say that these translations are always correct or perfect, however, I do think the essential meaning is rarely lost.  The question would be the eloquence, a quality that I think is especially essential for poetry,   Here is a web site that offers a translation of the poem THE END OF SEPTEMBER by Sandor Petofi, a man who is thought of as one of Hungary's greatest poets.  

I looked at several sites offering a translation of this poem and think this is the best one.

To me this is a sentimental love poem, quite beautiful.

BABEL MATRIX : END OF SEPTEMBER IN TRANSLATION


Thursday, November 25, 2021

THANKSGIVING

 So much to be thankful for....


Annyira hálásnak kell lenni

Sunday, November 7, 2021

HOUSE OF HUNGARY IN SAN DIEGO REOPENED

SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA HOUSE OF HUNGARY  One of the International Cottages in Balboa Park, San Diego, and first built in 1936 for an exposition, the house is open again and traditionally celebrates Christmas and other holidays. Hungarians of San Diego maintained a presence and contributed so the cottage could continue. (Read the history and the Hungarians who have been instrumental are named there.)

The house maintains a small library of books in Hungarian language.

Sunday, October 24, 2021

THE PUMPKIN in HUNGARIAN FOOD CULTURE ; ARE YOU PUMPKIN HAPPY? TOK


 THE CULTURE TRIP on HUNGARIAN PHRASES including PUMPKIN

Excerpt: Tök (tewk)

Meaning : Very (literally 'pumpkin'

In addition to the wide variety of pumpkins grown on Hungarian soil, the local language is also flush with the tasty squash. Often used to mean 'very' the phrase is an endearing intensifier to add emphasis to your sentences.  You can be tok bolddog (pumpkin happy), tok szomoru (pumpkin sad) or things can be tok jo rossz (pumpkin good - bad).  After all, why limit pumpkins to your dinner plate?

Saturday, August 7, 2021

THE PULI DOG - A HUNGARIAN FOLK TALE


I love this series. 

EXCERPT: The Hungarian Folktales stem from original folktale collections, every episode has its special authentic ornamentation.  The makers used the decorative art of a certain countryside region at each episode.  The trio of folk art, folk music and folk tales are masterfully combined in the episodes. which have unique imagery, sometimes spicy folk humor in the dialogues.  Thanks to the natural presentation of the storytellers, and the music of the Kalaka band, the view can experience something unique and special.