One article on Hungary's policy of anti illegal immigration, in particular the massive number of refugees from war-torn parts of the middle east, said Hungary is building a Great Wall, bringing to mind THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA, which was built to keep "Barbarians" called the Mongols, out. You may recall that there is DNA evidence as well as oral histories of the historical invasion of the Mongols into Hungary. I myself believe I have some Mongolian or Asian DNA.
Is Prime Minster Viktor Orban RIGHT when he says that if the refugees will not stop coming and that their sheer numbers will CHANGE THE CULTURES OF THE COUNTRIES THEY RESIDE IN. Well, I think so. Hungary currently fits into the United States state of Indiana. Imagine if millions of people attempted to go live in Indiana.
The fact is that there are people all around the world that wish they were somewhere else, people who would have a better life if they moved somewhere else, but when you are a refugee and you KNOW you are taking your life, possibly the life of your whole family, at risk with travel and all else, JUST FOR THE CHANCE that you will defy odds and find a way to make your living. Though desperate, you still must consider that, wherever you end up, you may have to change to fit in. Granted, you may have no idea what really the realities are, what the sacrifices will be to have the benefits, until you are already in a refugee camp, or living in a country where the weather is too cold for you. But such is the situation for many, who find themselves just existing and waiting.
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Sunday, August 14, 2016
MONGOLIAN WOMEN HAD IT GOOD COMPARED TO MOST MEDIEVAL WOMEN
Pages 169-174 From GENGHIS KHAN His Conquests His Empire His Legacy by Frank McLynn.
The Mongols were polygamous (taking many wives) and polygynous (taking many concubines) but the children of the chief wife were the ones who could be considered for the succession when their father died.
Genghis Khan's troops killed half the population of Hungary in the 1241 era, and one of the Mongol warriors favorite activities was raping the women, often in front of their father or husband. So what was life like for a MONGOLIAN WOMAN? Well, it turns out that compared to most medieval women, they had better status. This didn't mean they weren't treated as chattel, but consider; Genghis OUTLAWED RAPE. In the past only women were executed for adultery but now both men and women suffered the same punishment, "unless they were rich enough to buy themselves out of the predicament." Women could also decided if they wanted to be married and divorce became possible for them as it was by mutual consent. They did not expect a woman to be a virgin when she married and there was no stigma about having children before marriage or divorcing with children or having been married before. What this means is that if a couple could deal with their differences mutually and peaceably, the consequences were not great.
For the chief and high status men, marriage was not a personal decision so much as a community decision. Marriage was also considered to be eternal. Genghis was concerned about inbreeding but his precautions were not always followed. (It's possible that shorter lifespans were a result.)
In their nomadic and hunter-gatherer society, unlike the more European Agricultural societies, women and men performed many of the same or similar jobs, so there wasn't the divide of roles or "men's work," seen elsewhere. She was kept busy with household and other tasks. She was expected to know how to drive a large wagon, some with as many as 20 horses. "One woman would often be expected to drive as many as thirty interconnected wagons,; seven women would often be needed to transport a single oligarch's possessions, for one of these elaborate dwellings, when transported could fill over two hundred wagons; moreover, a single noble with multiple wives might have several such portable palaces." (171) Sometimes the woman had to figure out how to load the horses - and camels - so that everything was weight distributed.
Wise old women were prized for their wisdom and thought that some women had magical powers. Women did not have their feet bound as women did in China, nor did they wear clothing that prevented than from moving or seeing freely, such as Person chadors or Arabic burqas. They could even be regents or the realm or advisors. So in the 13th century there were many notable Mongol women. All this upset visitors from the Christian and Muslim faiths, and Buddhism and Confucianism when adopted from China, also reduced the role of women.
Overall, Genghis was considered a very pragmatic man and a genius about human nature. All the changes he made so that women would have a greater role and more respect than they had before were probably made to make life easier for the entire tribe.
C 2016 Book Excerpt/Review Magyar American BlogSpot All Rights Reserved
The Mongols were polygamous (taking many wives) and polygynous (taking many concubines) but the children of the chief wife were the ones who could be considered for the succession when their father died.
Genghis Khan's troops killed half the population of Hungary in the 1241 era, and one of the Mongol warriors favorite activities was raping the women, often in front of their father or husband. So what was life like for a MONGOLIAN WOMAN? Well, it turns out that compared to most medieval women, they had better status. This didn't mean they weren't treated as chattel, but consider; Genghis OUTLAWED RAPE. In the past only women were executed for adultery but now both men and women suffered the same punishment, "unless they were rich enough to buy themselves out of the predicament." Women could also decided if they wanted to be married and divorce became possible for them as it was by mutual consent. They did not expect a woman to be a virgin when she married and there was no stigma about having children before marriage or divorcing with children or having been married before. What this means is that if a couple could deal with their differences mutually and peaceably, the consequences were not great.
For the chief and high status men, marriage was not a personal decision so much as a community decision. Marriage was also considered to be eternal. Genghis was concerned about inbreeding but his precautions were not always followed. (It's possible that shorter lifespans were a result.)
In their nomadic and hunter-gatherer society, unlike the more European Agricultural societies, women and men performed many of the same or similar jobs, so there wasn't the divide of roles or "men's work," seen elsewhere. She was kept busy with household and other tasks. She was expected to know how to drive a large wagon, some with as many as 20 horses. "One woman would often be expected to drive as many as thirty interconnected wagons,; seven women would often be needed to transport a single oligarch's possessions, for one of these elaborate dwellings, when transported could fill over two hundred wagons; moreover, a single noble with multiple wives might have several such portable palaces." (171) Sometimes the woman had to figure out how to load the horses - and camels - so that everything was weight distributed.
Wise old women were prized for their wisdom and thought that some women had magical powers. Women did not have their feet bound as women did in China, nor did they wear clothing that prevented than from moving or seeing freely, such as Person chadors or Arabic burqas. They could even be regents or the realm or advisors. So in the 13th century there were many notable Mongol women. All this upset visitors from the Christian and Muslim faiths, and Buddhism and Confucianism when adopted from China, also reduced the role of women.
Overall, Genghis was considered a very pragmatic man and a genius about human nature. All the changes he made so that women would have a greater role and more respect than they had before were probably made to make life easier for the entire tribe.
C 2016 Book Excerpt/Review Magyar American BlogSpot All Rights Reserved
Sunday, April 3, 2016
I MEET A HUNGARIAN- AMERICAN NEIGHBOR FOR THE FIRST TIME : HE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH FINNISH PEOPLE and HIS CHINESE GIRLFRIEND!
Oh the MYSTERIOUSNESS of being HUNGARIAN! And Hungarians themselves are into the mystery of our origins and reading all around the human genome and DNA about now.
Last week, walking my dog, I happened to meet a neighbor I didn't know about who is a Hungarian-American of recent vintage. What an interesting and enthusiastic young person!
Of course, he mentioned that his people were now calling themselves Germans and Slovaks as well, because of well - the way the countries borders changed. But his first language is Hungarian, and I must stay his English is excellent, just enough accent to know that. He lives with his CHINESE girlfriend.
We talked for quite a long time. Enough that my dog lay down without being told to. (She knows that "mom is going to have a long conversation!")
I told him at the start of the conversation that I do genealogy research, that I don't speak Hungarian, but that I translate with the help of dictionaries and by asking other people who do speak it when I get stuck. I told him that I was convinced it was an Asian language, because by putting words in front or back or a root, you change the word - the imagery - that Hungarian is a poetical and humorous language.
I told him that sometimes when I translate place names, for instance, I'm reminded of the translations one gets in certain Chinese restaurants. For instance, one place, which is on a plateau with a lot of pine trees around seemed to be named "Black Hat." (One Chinese soup that has something for everyone to pick out of it is called "Happy Family.")
"I can understand Finnish people! I can understand things my girlfriend says and she's Chinese, because of that placement," he said. "We're MONGOLIANS!"
To finesse this a bit, there is evidence that while the LANGUAGE, which is not from the Latin, and not from the Slavs, probably came from an ancient starter population that dominated life at some point, and there is evidence that the Mongolians DNA is in, not only some Hungarians, but in a swath of countries, including southern Poland, parts of Germany, and so on, it may be a case of the DNA being diverse and the language being what prevailed even if the original native speakers' DNA became minority DNA.
I look into this every few months, because I know that DNA and the human genome science is getting more and more specific and interesting all the time.
I look forward to another conversation in the moment with Ferenz!
Last week, walking my dog, I happened to meet a neighbor I didn't know about who is a Hungarian-American of recent vintage. What an interesting and enthusiastic young person!
Of course, he mentioned that his people were now calling themselves Germans and Slovaks as well, because of well - the way the countries borders changed. But his first language is Hungarian, and I must stay his English is excellent, just enough accent to know that. He lives with his CHINESE girlfriend.
We talked for quite a long time. Enough that my dog lay down without being told to. (She knows that "mom is going to have a long conversation!")
I told him at the start of the conversation that I do genealogy research, that I don't speak Hungarian, but that I translate with the help of dictionaries and by asking other people who do speak it when I get stuck. I told him that I was convinced it was an Asian language, because by putting words in front or back or a root, you change the word - the imagery - that Hungarian is a poetical and humorous language.
I told him that sometimes when I translate place names, for instance, I'm reminded of the translations one gets in certain Chinese restaurants. For instance, one place, which is on a plateau with a lot of pine trees around seemed to be named "Black Hat." (One Chinese soup that has something for everyone to pick out of it is called "Happy Family.")
"I can understand Finnish people! I can understand things my girlfriend says and she's Chinese, because of that placement," he said. "We're MONGOLIANS!"
To finesse this a bit, there is evidence that while the LANGUAGE, which is not from the Latin, and not from the Slavs, probably came from an ancient starter population that dominated life at some point, and there is evidence that the Mongolians DNA is in, not only some Hungarians, but in a swath of countries, including southern Poland, parts of Germany, and so on, it may be a case of the DNA being diverse and the language being what prevailed even if the original native speakers' DNA became minority DNA.
I look into this every few months, because I know that DNA and the human genome science is getting more and more specific and interesting all the time.
I look forward to another conversation in the moment with Ferenz!