Showing posts with label Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 21, 2025

CHAOS : WILDFIRES AND DRAMATIC CHANGES IN POLITICS HAVE PEOPLE ON EDGE : IMMIGRATION

CHAOS : WILDFIRES AND DRAMATIC CHANGES IN POLITICS HAVE PEOPLE ON EDGE : IMMIGRATION

As the wildfires have consumed enough property and acreage to equal San Francisco or Miami, we the people of Southern California, are very concerned about the economic future of this part of the United States. Looters, arsonists, and other exploiters and criminals are taking advantage, as are landlords who are upping rents as well as other swindlers. 

But as the physical plant burns down, more concerning is the burning down of America in another way.  Politics.

Lately, some people have been pointing out to me Prime Minister of Hungary, Viktor Orban, a possible alliance between him and President Donald Trump, and immigration policy. They point out that Orban built "a wall" (actually a fence) and then mention the "wall" partially built between the United States and Mexico. This, and other supposed evidence of alliances are constantly pointed out to me and I sense what is wanted is a reaction.

Well, I have a reaction.

I tell people that Hungary has welcomed thousands of Ukrainian refugees from that war that Russia started and that Orban, in his role with the European Union, has visited both Zelensky and Putin. The Hungarian people have taken in these war refugees, mostly women and children. That Hungary is dependent on Russian oil and that makes things tricky. I tell people that thousands demonstrated in the streets of Budapest for an end to that war and for peace, but Hungary, being a small country, doesn't make world news much, so few heard about it. (I did from a Hungarian relative who lives in Budapest six months of the year.) 

I tell them that two thirds of the Hungarian population were murdered during the Ottoman occupation by Moslem Turks (over 150 years) and that is why Hungary, founded upon Christianity (specifically an alliance with Roman Catholicism) wants only Christian immigrants. I say that between that and the loss of a huge amount of territory known as Hungary after World War I and the 1920 Trianon Treaty, Hungarians are still fighting for national identity.

I also say that there is so much attention on blocking entry into the U.S. from Mexico but none on the much longer Canadian Border. If I were a terrorist I would not bother with the Mexican border. I would have a boat sail me up the coast; maybe in the middle of the night I'd row ashore in Malibu. Or maybe I would go to Canada and walk across the border there. There are lots of places to do so.

I also say that Trump claiming God saved him from a bullet so he could save America was disgusting; is he now claiming the Right of Kings? Himself as Biblical prophecy?

I actually see no link between true Christianity and the Prosperity Gospel or the exclusionary "Protestantism" of people who want to "round up" immigrants, that it sounds just like Germany, in an economic crisis pre the Holocaust and the "round up" of Jews, blamed for the economic problems, that I personally am fearful that is where we are heading.  No I do not want criminals entering the country. Criminality is not the same as people desperate for their lives and the lives of their children and families and we must acknowledge that. I feel the same way when I hear of "round ups" of homeless people. We are edging close to the "othering" that the Nazi's did to the Jews, comparing them to vermin rather than acknowledging their humanity.

Bigotry and discrimination and racism are coming back...

Be it the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazis or the Neo Nazis, NONE OF THIS IS OR EVER WAS CHRISTIANITY.  Remember, please, that the Nazi plan was to exterminate the Slavic people once the Jews were extinguished and to keep going.  

RELOCATION anyone?  FORCED RELOCATION?

"REPOPULATING" Pacific Palisades?

Do I expect everyone to be "Christian?"  Actually, I do not.

Do I know of illegals?  Are they joking?! We have a huge "illegal" population in Southern California, and they are not all Mexican. Over the years I've met illegals from South Africa, from Jamaica, and Germany and Ireland, and yes - one lovely young woman from Hungary who chased love - many who came on a tourist visa and never left.

Also, this may shock some of my readers, but as a personal note, I have been approached to marry for the purposes of keeping an illegal immigrant in the country four times in my life.  One Mexican, One Guatamalan, One Orthodox Jew from Israel (really!), One Indian from India.  Approached on the street, in a store, or asked outright by a friend. Usually an effort to make me consider such a thing, which I would never do, includes an excruciatingly old fashioned idea that I should be ashamed to be unpartnered and would be desperate to join the overwhelming majority of married women. Or that my rent would be paid.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OFTEN WORK FOR CASH. Now tell me employers are not depending on "casual" workers who are paid cash?  No benefits, no Social Security, no no no. Sometimes Americans pick up a casual laborer, work them all day, and then tell them to go f themselves, unpaid, under threat of the INS being informed of their presence: nasty evil people do that to them. So tell me, do you think so many would head here if they thought absolutely no one would hire them?  Hotels - Restaurants - the Tourist Industry - Cruises - really big on paying cash or extremely low off shore pay.

I'm not FOR illegal immigration, I hate criminality, especially when it comes to gang violence and drug and sex trafficking, but ONE NATION UNDER GOD, must have some empathy for the promise that so many of our ancestors had.

So I ask this question, who or what is your God?

Is it MONEY? Which is IDOLATRY?

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I ask you to read this: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


—Martin Niemöller

The 1,954-mile (3,145-kilometre) border between the U.S. and Mexico traverses a variety of terrain, including urban areas and deserts. The United States (U.S.) - Canada border is the longest in the world, spanning 5,525 miles (8,891 km) across 13 U.S. states and eight Canadian Provinces/Territories (These came up re AI.)

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Thursday, August 25, 2022

VICTOR ORBAN - 4th TERM AS PRIME MINISTER on HUNGARY AS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY


I think it's difficult for Hungarian-Americans or those American citizens of Hungarian heritage to entirely relate to the "Conservative Christian" or "Christian" take on some of the issues.  While there are various reasons Hungary and Prime Minister Orban may wish to keep ties with Russia and President Vladimir Putin, especially economically, and the Hungarian People are taking in Ukrainian refugees in dramatic numbers, his rant against Communism and association with Liberal Progressives as Communists does not sit well with me.

First of all, Russia is a Communist Country, and it's quite possible that Putin's aim is to reinstate the Soviet Union which would re-establish Communism in Hungary.

Secondly Communism as it has been played out does not jive with Christianity.

However Socialism, also questionable, and Christianity do seem to share some beliefs.

To be a Progressive Liberal in the United States (such as to align oneself with Democratic Socialist Bernie Sanders or Independent Marianne Williamson) is to believe that based on humanity, a person deserves food, shelter, and clothing, as well as education and health care, with the idea of elevating humanity as a whole. Taking care of our brothers and sisters is the aim and that is something that can be done without a belief in Jesus.

That said, there are a whole lot of people who call themselves Christians who do not meet the test.  Jesus said however we treat someone else is how we treat Him...

I don't want to get  too preachy here.  Life has taught me to get to know an individual and how they treat me and others may not depend on what they say they believe.  When you have not yourself it's difficult to also give to others.  

Don't we all want WORLD PEACE?

I guess not...

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Wednesday, May 29, 2019

HUNGARY's "GREAT WALL" AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION : CHRISTIAN VALUES EXPLOITED?

One article on Hungary's policy of anti illegal immigration, in particular the massive number of refugees from war-torn parts of the middle east, said Hungary is building a Great Wall, bringing to mind THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA, which was built to keep "Barbarians" called the Mongols, out. You may recall that there is DNA evidence as well as oral histories of the historical invasion of the Mongols into Hungary.  I myself believe I have some Mongolian or Asian DNA.

Is Prime Minster Viktor Orban RIGHT when he says that if the refugees will not stop coming and that their sheer numbers will CHANGE THE CULTURES OF THE COUNTRIES THEY RESIDE IN.  Well, I think so.  Hungary currently fits into the United States state of Indiana.  Imagine if millions of people attempted to go live in Indiana.

The fact is that there are people all around the world that wish they were somewhere else, people who would have a better life if they moved somewhere else, but when you are a refugee and you KNOW you are taking your life, possibly the life of your whole family, at risk with travel and all else, JUST FOR THE CHANCE that you will defy odds and find a way to make your living.  Though desperate, you still must consider that, wherever you end up, you may have to change to fit in.  Granted, you may have no idea what really the realities are, what the sacrifices will be to have the benefits, until you are already in a refugee camp, or living in a country where the weather is too cold for you. But such is the situation for many, who find themselves just existing and waiting.



Saturday, January 19, 2019

IS WORKING SIX DAYS A WEEK THE SAME AS SLAVERY?


BLOOMBERG: ANTI SLAVERY PROSTEST - ANTI ORBAN PROTEST

EXCERPT: Hungarians staged nationwide protests and threatened the first general strike since the end of Communism to pressure Prime Minister Viktor Orban into repealing a controversial new law on overtime.
Thousands gathered on Saturday in Budapest and blocked traffic in more than a dozen cities across the country, reflecting dissent that's spreading beyond the capital.  Labor unions and opposition groups are protesting what critics have dubbed the "slave law," which allows companies to ask employees to work the equivalent of six days a week...

Thursday, January 19, 2012

VOICE OF AMERICA : EUROPEAN UNION SUES HUNGARY

I looked at a lot of articles about this issue which is International News and chose the Voice of America news which has video attached. The country battles bankruptcy and is getting more conservative.

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Friday, January 13, 2012

HUNGARY AND EUROPEAN UNION : THE FLORINT IN TROUBLE

The United States is in financial trouble - an understatement - just ask the seniors who lived through the first Great Depression. Of course Europe is in trouble too, and that includes Hungary, where the florint, the national currency has hit historical lows in the first weeks of the new year. In this Rueter's breaking news article, by writers Gergely Szakacs and Krisztina Than, the demands of the European Union and others when it comes to lending Hungary money, are seen my some as an attack on Hungary's own self rule. Linking to it at the title above.