ANCESTRY.COM HUNGARIAN RECORDS THAT ARE USELESS IF YOU'RE CHRISTIAN

I took the time to check ANCESTRY.COM for Hungarian records to see if some of the most common surnames in Hungary would come up... When they did not and I saw that Ancestry.com was crediting Jewishgen as the source, I realized what was happening here. 

I tried HUNGARY ALL CITIZEN CENSUS  1869.   WHAT AN TOTALLY MISLEADING TITLE!  Source JewishGen?!  It's clear that this TITLE SHOULD BE CHANGED TO "JEWS OUR JEWISH VOLUNTEERS DECIDED TO INDEX."

I also tried HUNGARY ASSORTED CENSUS RECORDS 1781-1850

AGAIN THE COMMON HUNGARIAN SURNAMES DID NOT COME UP.

I hate when a database is called "Assorted." THIS SHOULD BE RETITLED TO "JEWS ON THE CENSUS RECORDS THAT OUR JEWISH VOLUNTEERS DECIDED TO TRANSPOSE."

You may not think of it as I do, but basically these FALSE and MISLEADING TITLES are like BAIT and SWITCH.

Why does JewishGen think that if they are going to turn over all their records to Ancestry.com that they should continue to run their own web site and plead constantly for more volunteers and more donations?

You can always use FAMILYSEARCH on the INTERNET FOR FREE.

MY DOG IS AN HONORARY HUNGARIAN!

My dog is not a Puli or any other "Hungarian Breed."  Let's just say that a few days after I adopted her I took her to a vet and asked him, "Do you think she's a Maltese Poodle?"  He said, "Could Be!"  He also said that looking at her teeth she could be younger than her paperwork claimed.

Well, are Poodle's German and Maltese from Malta?  Malta as a tiny Mediterranean Island near the boot of Italy?

"Do many people get the DNA test to prove their dog is a pure breed?"  I asked.

He sort of chuckled.  "Yes!  And you would not believe how many dogs that are this big (he showed with his hands - a small Maltese-Poodle kind of dog) were this big (he showed with his hands the size of a wolf) just two generations ago!"

Well, I was looking for a POMERANIAN (you Hungarians may have heard of these dogs called "Poms," when I fell in love with my Maltese-Poodle, and I'm so happy with her.  I love her.  But once in a while when we're out walking someone will comment.  "Well, that tail is no poodle."  or "Her coloring is interesting...strange..." 

Then I say, "Well I suspect Mama was the Maltese and Daddy was an Apricot Mini Poodle!"
So she got adopted by me, a Magyar-American.

Here is why I consider her an HONORARY HUNGARIAN.

1) She loves to taste test.  I have to watch her constantly.  With the eyes in the back of her head she has managed to outsmart me several times.  We're walking down the street, I see nothing, and suddenly she has an ancient chicken leg with decayed meat covered in red ants in her mouth and I'm screaming "Spit it out!" (As if dogs understand long sentences.)  In my opinion Hungarians are "foodies."

2) She loves to eat steamed cabbage and other veggies.
She also loves to eat steamed cauliflower, broccoli, peas, green beans, zucchini, sometimes she will eat parsley, and has been known to munch on grass, marigolds, fennel, and other herbs.

3) She doesn't much like dog beds.  She loves a bed made of comforters, quilts, old blankets and towels which she like to turn around a few times in to make herself a nest.  She will look for an elevated place that's like a pillow for her head.

4) She likes to listen to symphony orchestras, pianos, solo guitars, and yes violins, especially high pitched tones. How do I know?  Well, because when I play these on the radio she will lounge, but with her eyes open.

5) She loves me!

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THEY ALL PLAY VIOLINS HUNGARIAN / HUNGARIAN-AMERICAN STEREOTYPE

 

 

Picture from GRAPHICS FAIRY Said to be from 1923 and Oscar March

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This stereotype is one of the least offensive, considering that so many of the inaccurate stereotypes of Hungarians and Hungarian-Americans can hurt.  

Sure, the violin is a well appreciated and valued instrument.

 

But the "they all play violins" idea is actually more based in the reality that violin playing GYPSIES (ROM) were and are often hired to play for weddings and other important occasions.

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It's tied into the wrong ideas that ALL GYPSIES ARE HUNGARIAN and that all HUNGARIANS have at least some gypsy in them.

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LILACS NEED MATES

My father tried to get a lilac tree going in our yard, and this particular lilac tree never grew, never died, never had blooms.  How disappointing! We wanted this tree because we had seen and smelled the glorious blooms of other trees in other yards.  Then one day someone told us that the tree would not bloom because it did not have a mate nearby enough.  We came to understand that with lilacs there are "males" and "females" (which we had, I do not know) and that they needed to be close by each other for one of them to bloom.

SOME NEW ANCESTRY DATABASES MAY BE USEFUL TO HUNGARIAN and HUNGARIAN AMERICAN GENEOLOGY RESEARCHERS

HUNGARY CIVIL REGISTRATIONS 1895-1978  (Indexes)

ROMANIA VITAL RECORDS FOR SELECTED REGIONS  1595-1914  (In German)

These are two of the newer offerings by the popular ANCESTRY genealogy databases that may be helpful to some of you.  I tried both of them and didn't find anything for my own particular family history project/genealogy.  The trouble is that there is little to nothing for certain Hungarian Counties.

As a note, there are many JEWISH GEN contributions to the ANCESTRY DATABASES.  Sadly, I was witness years ago to some of the data collection going on by volunteers working for JEWISHGEN at one of the LDS Family History Centers.  They were scrolling microfilm and making judgments on who was or wasn't Jewish.   One of these volunteers admitted to me that he had not realized that Christians/Catholics also used some Biblical given names (first names) and had submitted these people as Jewish.  It goes to show you, that you MUST go to the original source material and decide for yourself.

Additionally, there may be USEFUL NOTATIONS that are not recorded by indexing projects, just ignored, or because there is no one to translate the notes properly.

You may want to also look for FUNERAL NOTICES, though these appeared where there were actual newspapers and may have only been for those who paid for the notice.

THE "HUNGARIAN FOLK" WEBSITE has FOLK MOTIFS by REGION

HUNGARIAN FOLK - HUNGARIAN FOLK MOTIFS

According to the authors of this web site, not only are some motifs regional, some villages have their own...

From the web site - go there to see more!

I MEET A HUNGARIAN- AMERICAN NEIGHBOR FOR THE FIRST TIME : HE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH FINNISH PEOPLE and HIS CHINESE GIRLFRIEND!

Oh the MYSTERIOUSNESS of being HUNGARIAN!  And Hungarians themselves are into the mystery of our origins and reading all around the human genome and DNA about now.

Last week, walking my dog, I happened to meet a neighbor I didn't know about who is a Hungarian-American of recent vintage.  What an interesting and enthusiastic young person!

Of course, he mentioned that his people were now calling themselves Germans and Slovaks as well, because of well - the way the countries borders changed.  But his first language is Hungarian, and I must stay his English is excellent, just enough accent to know that.  He lives with his CHINESE girlfriend.

We talked for quite a long time.  Enough that my dog lay down without being told to.  (She knows that "mom is going to have a long conversation!")

I told him at the start of the conversation that I do genealogy research, that I don't speak Hungarian, but that I translate with the help of dictionaries and by asking other people who do speak it when I get stuck.  I told him that I was convinced it was an Asian language, because by putting words in front or back or a root, you change the word - the imagery - that Hungarian is a poetical and humorous language. 

I told him that sometimes when I translate place names, for instance, I'm reminded of the translations one gets in certain Chinese restaurants.  For instance, one place, which is on a plateau with a lot of pine trees around seemed to be named "Black Hat."  (One Chinese soup that has something for everyone to pick out of it is called "Happy Family.")

"I can understand Finnish people!  I can understand things my girlfriend says and she's Chinese, because of that placement," he said.  "We're MONGOLIANS!"

To finesse this a bit, there is evidence that while the LANGUAGE, which is not from the Latin, and not from the Slavs, probably came from an ancient starter population that dominated life at some point, and there is evidence that the Mongolians DNA is in, not only some Hungarians, but in a swath of countries, including southern Poland, parts of Germany, and so on,  it may be a case of the DNA being diverse and the language being what prevailed even if the original native speakers' DNA became minority DNA.

I look into this every few months, because I know that DNA and the human genome science is getting more and more specific and interesting all the time.

I look forward to another conversation in the moment with Ferenz!