SZENT MATTHE

 

THANKSGIVING IN THE UNITED STATES

A day that celebrates PLENTY.  

In the United States there are many Thanksgiving meals that are given freely at churches, homeless shelters, senior centers, and other food distributions or outreaches.

 

HUNGARIAN PUMPKIN or BUTTERNUT SQUASH and POPPYSEED STRUDEL

HUNGARIAN PUMPKIN AND POPPYSEED STRUDEL

Tökös-Mákos Rétes

1 small pie pumpkin (or butternut squash) - about 2 pounds

3/4 cup ground poppyseed

2/3 cup sugar, or to taste
2/3 cup sour cream (more or less. This is included to bind the poppy seeds and quite possibly plain yogurt drained of liquid can be used - spoon into the mixture gently and don't use too much.)
1 lemon. First use a grater to get the zest, then squeeze to get the juice.
1/2 tsp ground cinnamon

2 tbsp melted butter

1/2 cup of stick butter, also melted.

For the pastry and finish:8–10 sheets phyllo dough, thawed
1 stick (1/2 cup) unsalted butter, melted
2 tbsp breadcrumbs (optional, to absorb excess moisture)
Powdered sugar for dusting

 
PUMPKIN FILLING:

Peel and coarsely grate the fresh pumpkin. Toss it lightly with a pinch of salt and let it sit in a sieve a while so any excess moisture can drain. Squeeze the pumpkin to remove as much liquid as possible. If using canned pumpkin, make sure it's not too watery. Generally canned pumpkin is usually good as is.

POPPYSEED MIXTURE:

In a bowl, mix the ground poppy seeds, sugar, sour cream, lemon zest and juice. The mixture should not be runny, so add that sour cream gently and by the spoonful.

Then stir in the 2 tbsp of melted butter and cinnamon.

COMBINE THE TWO MIXTURES

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Preheat your oven to 375°F (190°C). (Note the higher temperature than the last recipe.)

Line baking sheet with parchment paper.

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PHYLLO DOUGH TECHNIQUE

Phyllo can be purchased at the market. It needs to be defrosted when bought frozen.

On flat surface, lay out a clean cloth and carefully place one sheet of the phyllo dough on it. Brush it lightly with melted butter.

Place a second sheet of phyllo on top of the first sheet, and also brush with butter.
Continue until you have eight players of phyllo. (Note that this is two sheets more than the last recipe, probably to accommodate the poppyseed mixture.)

Spoon the pumpkin mixture on the phyllo dough and evenly spread it, leaving a two inch border on all sides so that dough will stick together.

Roll the strudel. First fold the sides of the phyllo dough inward to enclose the filling. Then roll the strudel tightly into a log shape, starting from the filled end - which will be in the center.

Carefully place the rolled phyllo dough strudel seam down on the baking sheet that has been lined with parchment paper. Bake for 25-35 minutes or until the top is golden brown. Let the strudel cool for at least 30 minutes before cutting.

Dust generously with powdered sugar just before serving.

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THE HUNGARIAN VERSION OF PUMPKIN PIE? TRY PUMPKIN STRUDEL! RECIPE THAT USES PHYLLO AND BREAD CRUMBS!

HUNGARIAN PUMPKIN STRUDEL, known as Tökös Rétes, uses phyllo dough, which can be purchased in many markets in the United States. Layered phyllo dough is wrapped around a sweet pumpkin filling. If it isn't in your local market, try Hungarian, Polish, Slovak, Greek, or Armenian markets. (In my area I found it at a market that all the caterers buy from.) The baked texture is crispy and flakey. 

INGREDIENTS

1 small pie pumpkin (about 2 cups grated) ... see note about canned pumpkin.

3/4 tsp cinnamon
1/8 tsp allspice
1/8 tsp ground cloves
1/8 tsp ground ginger
1/3 cup toasted breadcrumbs 
1/3 cup vanilla-infused caster sugar (superfine sugar) or to taste

THE STRUDEL

6 sheets of store-bought phyllo dough, defrosted
1/2 cup unsalted butter, melted
1/4 cup light oil (optional, for brushing)
Powdered sugar, for dusting

FIRST MAKE THE FILLING:

Peel and grate the raw pumpkin. Toss it lightly with a pinch of salt and let it sit in a sieve a while so any excess moisture can drain. Squeeze the pumpkin to remove as much liquid as possible.(If using canned, be sure it's not too watery. If so, give it a little time in a sieve to drain. Generally, most canned pumpkin is usable as is.)

THEN MAKE THE CRUMB MIXTURE:

Melt the butter in a small pan, add the breadcrumbs, and cook until golden brown. 

NOW THE DOUGH FILLING:

In a bowl, combine the grated pumpkin, buttered breadcrumbs, caster sugar, and spices. Mix thoroughly and set aside.

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Preheat your oven to 350°F (180°C).

Line baking sheet with parchment paper.

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PHYLLO DOUGH TECHNIQUE

On flat surface, lay out a clean cloth and carefully place one sheet of the phyllo dough on it. Brush it lightly with melted butter.

Place a second sheet of phyllo on top of the first sheet, and also brush with butter.

Continue until you have six players of phyllo.

Spoon the pumpkin mixture on the phyllo dough and evenly spread it, leaving a two inch border on all sides so that dough will stick together.

Roll the strudel.  First fold the sides of the phyllo dough inward to enclose the filling. Then roll the strudel tightly into a log shape, starting from the filled end - which will be in the center.

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Carefully place the rolled phyllo dough strudel seam down on a baking sheet. Bake for 25-35 minutes or until the top is golden brown. Let the strudel cool for at least 30 minutes before cutting.

Dust generously with powdered sugar just before serving.

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Just a note that you might experiment using some squash. 

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GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU! HOW DO YOU CELEBRATE A HUNGARIAN-AMERICAN THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY?

 HOW DO YOU CELEBRATE A HUNGARIAN-AMERICAN THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY?

You may be a recent immigrant to the United States or a few generations away from an ancestor who came, but, if you're reading MAGYAR-AMERICAN, there's a good chance you claim some Hungarian heritage.

And if so, how do you celebrate THANKSGIVING with some Hungarian cultural inclusion?

It's my idea that including Hungarian recipes - food - is what many people include!  

Leave me a comment!

EMBROIDERY

 

A YOUTUBE CHANNEL THAT I FOUND TO BE INTERESTING : DNA SCIENCE - LANGUAGE - CULTURE - ETHNICITY - HISTORY - ARCHEOLOGY

It's long been my policy not to embed videos from YouTube if there are commercials. I have no control of the commercials that come up and I hear that the poster doesn't either - therefore I can only offer you the links.  But what a YouTube Channel this is!  

I listened with fascination the following....

RUSYNS: Scientists Are Stunned by the Genetic Origins of the Rusyns : MYSTIC VOYAGE CHANNEL   (quick mention towards the end of Hungarians....)  CARPATHIANS

POLAND: What Polish DNA Reveals Will Rewrite European History? : MYSTIC VOYAGE CHANNEL

HITTITE: The Surprising Story Of Hittite DNA : MYSTIC VOYAGE 

ROMA GYPSIES : Why Roma Gypsies Carry DNA That Europe Tried to Erase? : MYSTIC VOYAGE

The Channel is sophisticated and reveals not just the latest understanding of DNA but also a knowledge of language, culture, history...  Archeology! I love it!

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Just a note that I had a Hungarian friend of mine listened to the Poland one (I notice that the station has yet to date to do the Hungarians) and challenged it...

CROW EATS A WORM

 

MINDENSZENTEK : DEEP INTO THE HUNGARIAN TRADITIONS : ALL SAINTS and ALL SOULS

All Souls Day in Hungary is a time of religious and/or spiritual attention to the humans who have lived their lives and gone before us.

According to It's Hungarian, a publication online:
In the 8th century Pope Gregory III has started the holiday of the All Saints’ Day, which is celebrated on the first day of November. The pope has stood out for that – beside the martyrs – the saints, who are canonized after the recognition of the Christianity, must be celebrated too. So, this way the All Saints’ Day is become the feast of the hollowed souls, who are because of the large number of their kind, not mentioned in the calendars uniquely.

All Saints Day in November 1st.

But this day became a way to celebrate our ancestors - saintly or not. This is done by visiting graves, cleaning them, leaving flowers, lighting candles; it became All Souls Day,.

ITS HUNGARIAN : CELEBRATIONS OF THE DEAD IN HUNGARY - ALL SAINTS and ALL SOULS

Excerpt: According to the folkways, the night between the All Saints’ Day, and the All soul’s day the deceased have mass in the church, and when the bell tolls, they are going to the house of their beloved ones. In the peasant’s house, an extra plate has been placed to the tables, bread, salt and water has been served into them. In Székely Land a loaf has been cooked, which is called God’s pie or the bread of the dead.

In Hungary, food and charity has given to and cared about the homeless and poor ones, to advance the reach of the bliss of the dead souls. Mainly bread and honey coated scone is given at the gates of the cemeteries.

VOLCANIC HUNGARY : HARKANY SPA : THE DEVIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEAT!

HARKANY HUNGARY : HISTORY AND LEGEND AND POETRY OF THE SPA 

Excerpt:  The Legend of Harka Popular belief created its own legend explaining the origin of medical water of Harkány and of the neighbouring natural formations. The legend of Harka, existing in different variations, attaches the rising of medicinal water to the surface to the devil who failed on a trial. He did not manage to get Harka a beautiful girl whose tricky mother, also referred to as a witch, outwitted the devil.

From the South, if you watch,

Harsány’s peaked hill

You can see more furrows

Plowed in the rocky boroughs

And rooster, goat, cat

Footprints appear on the ridge’s back.

An old granny used to live there

Had a daughter with a name of Harka

A wonderful maid

The devil fancied her

At nights he watched

Just couldn’t be fed up.

If you want the girl,

Until rooster crowing,

Plow the hill of Harsány!

Said the devil: On my way!

Hooked in a cat, a goat, and a rooster

In his golden plow.

Granny through the attic hole,

Watching-waiting,

The devil doing.

Her bulging eyes are watching

The devil almost finishing

On the ridge.

If he is so fast,

He will finish while we rest.

Granny in a hurry,

Down the road to the hen house,

Crowing like a mad grouse.

Then joined the rooster

Like a booster.

The devil tearing his hair,

The three animals became hills,

As the devil saw his defeat,

In his anger, stamped with his feet,

A hole appeared and absorbed him,

Where he got back to hell,

Sulphured hot water came up well.

VOLCANIC HUNGARY : HOARDS OF ANCIENT 3400 YEAR OLD - LATE BRONZE AGE - EARLY IRON AGE ARTIFACTS FOUND ON EXTINCT VOLCANO SOMLO HILL

ARCHAEOLOGY MAGAZINE - SOMLO HILL - BRONZE AGE ARTIFACTS

Excerpts: Now, an excavation team led by archaeologist Bence Soós and affiliated with the Hungarian National Museum’s Public Collection Center has revealed the site as one of the richest sources of Late Bronze Age (1450–800 BCE) and Early Iron Age (800–450 BCE) material in the region. ... The team used a range of advanced survey techniques, including metal detecting, field-walking surveys, magnetic prospection, and airborne laser scanning (lidar), to map and study the site. The work revealed over 900 metal objects, largely concentrated on the southeastern plateau of the hill. Importantly, five of the six hoards are dated to the Late Bronze Age, with one from the Early Iron Age. They include jewelry, brooches, decorative discs believed to be military adornments, and a rare Alpine-type spearhead from Hoard I.

Check out the archeology map of the Hill an the photos of artifacts!

VOLCANIC HUNGARY : WINE REGIONS IN HUNGARY and THE GROWING OF WINE

TASTE OF HUNGARY : THE LAND OF FIRE AND SALT

This beautiful article with good photos too! Excerpts:

The diverse mineral-laden soils of these iconic landscapes have also given rise to some of the world’s most unique and prized wines. ... What are now the Tapolca and Káli Basins lay on the edge of the receding Pannonian Sea. More than fifty volcanoes were documented in the area, with their violent eruptions and explosive magma being cooled by the sea’s marshy shores. Huge tuff rings surrounded massive craters, which were later filled with lava lakes. ... In Tokaj, the hills and valleys of Hungary’s most prestigious wine region are also the result of volcanic activity, with miles of picturesque twisting black-mold-coated cellars carved out of the soft volcanic tuff. The Tokaj-Eperjes range of mountains boasts a full spectrum of volcanic rocks and soils which differ from one side of a hill to another. On one side there’s a vineyard with dusky red nyirok soil, and on another black basalt and then white soils glint in the bright sunshine. ....

VOLCANIC HUNGARY: THE SMITHSONIAN VOLCANO DATABASE

With earthquakes and long dormant volcanos erupting and seemingly linked, I thought I would do some research into VOLCANIC HUNGARY, knowing that the Tokaj area and wine industry is often cited as the grape vines benefitting from the soil and taste of the wine. 

FIRST THE SMITHSONIAN! SMITHSONIAN NATURAL HISTORY- VOLCANOS - HUNGARY

Volcano Name

Volcanic 

Region

Primary Landform

Bakony-Balaton Highland Central European Volcanic Province Cluster
Little Hungarian Plain Central European Volcanic Province Cluster
Nograd-Southern Slovakia

THESE LAST WERE ACTIVE WHEN DINOSAURS WALKED THE EARTH.. the Pleistocene period.

THESE ARE CONSIDERED EXTINCT VOLCANOS, however, consider this: In Russia the Krasheninnikov Volcano awoke and erupted after at least 400 years dormant - some articles said 600 years... The eruption came after an 8.8 earthquake which lead to tsunami warnings.

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The Krakatoa Sunsets

By Richard Hamblyn

From Public Domain Review

FERDINAND I of HUNGARY AS PAINTED BY TITIAN

 'Ferdinand I of Hungary and Bohemia', 16th century, Italian... is a painting by Titian -c 1485-1576

VAJAHUNYAD : A FANTASY CASTLE BUILT FOR THE 1000th ANNIVERSARY OF HUNGARY : WONDERFUL PLACES IN HUNGARY #31

https://vajdahunyadcastle.com/

While in Budapest....

Excerpt: The whole nation was in a feverish preparation to celebrate the 1000th birthday, but, despite all hurried work, the Expo had to be held one year later (Hungarian astronomists set the date of the Magyar Conquest in 895, so the Exhibition was in fact the 1001th birthday).

The original building of the Vajdahunyad Castle (officially called in 1896 the Historical Building Complex, i.e. Tortenelmi Epuletcsoport) was just a temporary structure made of wooden planks and cardboard designs. Even its plain name was descriptive signifying that it is nothing more than a complex of various historical buildings. Ignac Alpar designed the building of Vajdahunyad Var, which is actually the name of an old Hungarian Gothic Castle in Hunyadvar hence Vajda-Hunyadvar (Hunyadvar was part of Austria-Hungary before 1919, now found in Romania).

PURPLE

 

GRAPE VINE WREATH

 

TELKI-BANYA : 800 YEARS OF MINING GOLD, SILVER, OPALS, CRYSTALS, MINERALS : WONDERFUL PLACES IN HUNGARY #30

 

Are you a "rock hound?" I suggest that Telki Banya would make for a leisurely day trip in Tokaj mountain country. I first heard of Telki Banya years ago in genealogy archival documents. I suspected I might have ancestors who lived there and research proved I was right, though the old handwritten records for the Protestant Church were both difficult to read and (surprise!) had been transcribed in the FamilySearch genealogy database! (The ancestors moved and became Roman Catholics along the way.) Telki Banya translates to Good Mine and I was intrigued to know that gold and silver had been mined there since the Medieval period. Years ago there wasn't much on the Internet about the little town. There is much more now. I was next amazed to learn that there are surface minerals and gem stones, especially opals! It seems there are so very many varieties of gemstones and crystals to be found in the area this place has true geological educational value. The reason why? Ancient volcanos. You can still see lava domes and other evidence above ground.

This beautiful video is a delight to watch:

Walk or hike, go to the mining museum, buy some locally made jewelry from the also local rocks, check out the Protestant church and graveyard (carved wooden posts), the Saint Catherine's Roman Catholic chapel and an old Jewish graveyard. 

ARCGIS - MINERALS AND ROCKS! CHECK THIS OUT! A colorful expandable geology map.

RESEARCH GATE (JUST A LITTLE TASTE) OF GEOLOGICAL MARVALS IN TELKI BANYA

Anthropic Vulnerability of a Hydrothermal Mineral Deposit and Related Mining Heritage, a Case Study from a Medieval Gold-Silver Mining Area, Telkibánya, Hungary

As I researched Telki Banya, I found some "gems and minerals" of information.

I have lost where I got this excerpt from: 

Far away from noisy towns, hidden in the Zemplén Hills Hotel Ezüstfenyő *** awaits its explorers continuously, reviving the atmosphere of the long-ago Károlyi hunting mansion. Telkibánya is situated between the Northern mounds of the Zemplén Hills; from its mines gold and silver were exploited during centuries. The roots of the 'magical' reputation of the small village go back to the special cultural heritage and the natural beauty of the neighbourhood as well as to the healthy environment excellent for curing asthmatic diseases.

Then there's this one:

Surface minerals, Telkibanya  (from a now expired site called szallasfoglalas) said:

The hills surrounding the settlement are the cherished terrain of mineral collectors who find many lovely and precious stones here on the surface including opal, jasper and mountain crystal.

Mineral tours are organized locally. Gyepű Hill primarily offers amethysts, smoky quartz and mountain crystals, Kánya Hill is known for its amethysts, smoky quartz, mountain crystals, and a pseudomorphosis of quartz after calcite. Sinta Hill is the place for the most beautiful mountain crystals but agates can also be found. White Hill (Fehér-hegy) holds geodes, the Ósva Valley varieties of opals. 

Here is the "big geode."

MATARKA (PDF) HISTORY OF MINING TELKI BANYA

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BOOK and PEONY

 

BALATONUDVARI HEART SHAPED TOMBSTONES and ARTIST ILONA KERERU

Yes, believe it or not, there is a graveyard in the village of Balatonudvari (near Lake Balaton) where the tombstones are all "heart shaped."  (Some say shaped like an apple, but perhaps the point of the heart is in the ground?)  See the good photographs.

MEDIUM : HEART SHAPED TOMBSTONES of BALATONUDVARI by Alexandra Palconi 

Excerpt: "THE DEAD HEART TURNS INTO STONE, TOO.  FIRST IT BECOMES DUST< THEN IT TURNS INTO STONE."

Of course, there is also a local legend about these monuments; apparently, a local handyman convinced the villagers of Balatonudvari to order heart- shaped tombstones because "the dead hearts turn into stone, too.  First it becomes dust, then it turns into stone."  There are rumors that the last of the heart-shaped tombstones stands at the handyman's grave.  The creepy thing is, according to the same legend, he even engraved his own tombstone.

STEVEN FRIENDMAN GALLERY : ART BY ILONA KESEWRU INSPIRED BY THE HEART SHAPED TOMBSTONES

WAYS TO FIGURE DEATH OF AN ANCESTOR IF THE RECORDS ARE MISSING OR INCOMPLETE : HUNGARIAN CEMETERIES , READING DEATH RECORDS, GENEALOGY RESEARCH IN HUNGARY #5

Those of you who have been into genealogy for some time may already know this. Those of you who are early in your research may not realize; Warning! - This is a lot of work - a lot of time will be required.  I suppose it's about how motivated you are to go back further, another generation.

Because I'm an "extreme genealogist" I frankly enjoy the challenge.

1) Do your family group sheets. Often you find the birth/ baptisms of children is what reveals a married couple.

2) On some birth records, you may notice a cross mark which indicates death and a date listed. If the date is not listed and it's a baby, then the baby probably was still born or died soon after birth.

3) Notice the pattern of children born and the age of the parents. Is there a point where a reasonably fertile youthful couple stop having children?  You might make a timeline in which you figure the age of the mother at each childbirth.  

4) Notice if a given name has been used in that family before. That indicates that the child in the family first given that name has died, and so the name is being used again.  (This ties into a religious belief that God is giving a replacement child and blessing the couple. So many babies and children died without becoming adults before vaccinations, I often truly wonder how people could emotionally handle so much death.  Since it was happening all around them, though, they had the experience of "this is how life is.")

5) The remarriage of a man or woman almost always indicates the death of a spouse in those days before divorce, so the records may state that they had a previous marriage, that they are a widow or widower, and might mention the woman's previous married surname. (Don't be shocked if the remarriage comes soon after the death.  People were pragmatic and work was gender-based. Pressure was on to remarry.) Until you find a definite date, you would note "death previous" to the marriage date on your research.

5) Informal adoption : Notes may also indicate that a child's parent died. Sometimes you will notice on a marriage record that a mention has been made of a former parent's surname. Because adoption for common children was so informal, it could be that they went to live with relatives, or they may have started working to support themselves very young... This may be revealed also by doing a "house number"/ farmstead study, seeing who is living at the address and when.

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HUNGARIAN CEMETERIES NEED UPDATED MAPS AND DATBASES BUT... HUNGARIAN CEMETERIES , READING DEATH RECORDS, GENEALOGY RESEARCH IN HUNGARY #4

HUNGARY : CEMETERIES : NEED FOR UPDATED MAPS and DATABASES  https://rmx.news/hungary/grave-matter-hungarian-cemeteries-lack-up-to-date-maps-and-registries/

But please remember this: Many cemeteries in the United States, Hungary, everywhere, are missing tombstones - a grave was never provided one, or a wooden cross or other marker was destroyed by weather, or the stones were stolen or - in the case of some places in Europe - removed to be used for other purposes by the Nazi's, BUT THE POINT IS....  Just because a tombstone is not there does not mean that the burial didn't happen. And so...

CONTACT THE CEMETERY! As this article mentions, finding out who was buried and where might not lead anywhere... But some cemeteries have hundreds of burials recorded in their books that have no stones. The first place to look is the cemetery associated with the church in which you've found the record of death. If you are going to visit in person, make contact as far in advance as possible. Knowing a relative is going to visit may be inspirational to the care-taker.

CONTACT THE DIOCESE! Often burials in cemeteries that are religion-based are also recorded with the diocese and not just the local church.

CONTACT THE UNDERTAKER! Sometimes the funeral home keeps records which may mention where the burial took place. This is a more modern approach.

HOWEVER

The Jewish people have taken on cemetery projects in an admirable way. Starting many years ago, initially the idea was to visit cemeteries that had suffered from damage during the Holocaust, and from the neglect because generations had left Europe, and clean, straighten and record the stones, mow down the weeds, and sometimes erect other memorials.  

Here is an example ZEILSLER FAMILY PROJECT : EGER JEWISH CEMETERIES

And the INTERNATIONAL JEWISH CEMETERY PROJECT EASTERN EUROPE

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MASS BURIAL OF SOLDIERS WHO FOUGHT OFF THE OTTOMAN TURKS IN THE BATTLE OF MOHACS - August 31 1526 - DISCOVERED : ARCHEOLOGY IN HUNGARY

The excavated remains are planned to be laid to rest of the 500th anniversary of the battle, which is on August 29, 2026, in a crypt in a chapel to be built there.

HUNGARY TODAY : MASS GRAVE : BATTLE OF MOHACS good photos of the dig

MIAMI HERALD : MASS GRAVE WITH THOUSANDS OF SKELETONS BATTLE OF MOHACS includes audio....  A dark day in Hungarian history, thousands dead in an hour, including the Hungarian King... Some were executed, some may have been prisoners.

This is quite the animation by Aditu Laudis

URN OF GERANIUMS

 

READING THE LATIN and MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE BACK IN THE DAY : HUNGARIAN CEMETERIES , READING DEATH RECORDS, GENEALOGY RESEARCH IN HUNGARY #3

  What did our ancestors know about the cause of death back in the 19th century and before that?  When there were no vaccines, when a C-section was only done to try and save the baby since the mother had already died in childbirth, and when average people rarely lived as long as we are expected to? It seems that the more populated the place, and the more likely an educated doctor, the more details or understanding there might have been.

I've been working with death records for some time and many have no connotations at all, rather the concern seems to be that last rites of the Catholic church were administered to the dying, and that a grave was provided. When we look at records we may see Latin being used, though sometimes other notes are in Hungarian. 

Latin was the universal language of the Roman Catholic church.

SOME CAUSES OF DEATH IN RECORDS FROM 19th and 18th century  Death = Halal 

Naturalis : a natural death.  In other words not an accident.  Can cover anything other than an accident but especially old age or being debilitated. Also Ordinaris - an ordinary death, nothing unexpected.  (So far I have found only one record, for a twelve year old boy, in which is was written tragikus baleset (in Hungarian, Tragic Accident.)

Note that handwritten F's may be used in some cases instead of S.

Tusis : (Tufis) cough  (Whatever ailed this person they were coughing a lot.  Can be a childhood illness or can be TB.)

Phthisis : pulmonary - TB or another progressive and systemic illness

Hydrops (Hidrop) : fluid in the tissues or edema (visible, this can indicate any end-stage of life including cancer.)

How much was understood about cancer is unknown to me. We now know there are very many cancers and generally the place they originated in the body is what they are called, i.e. "colon cancer" though it may have spread.

Aquio suffo - Aquio suffocatus : means suffocate with water (drowned) however, some illness the person's lungs or heart filled with fluid.

Dipenteria / Dipenterium : Prison  (Person died while in prison.)

Morbo grasante : morbid fat or fattening disease

Dolorum : Pain  Which might be followed by where the pain was such as Stomachi (Stomach), Internum (Internal), Guter (gut)... Our ancestors did not have much for pain control and death was often painful... Fajdalom = Hungarian 

Ulceribus : an ulcer or wound that would not heal, which could be due to an infection. Fekely =Hungarian  (A Note that this notation might also indicate the person had diabetes.)

Tumores : tumors.  These would probably have had to be visible or perhaps operated upon.

Febris : fever  laz=Hungarian

Senex : Old Person (senile?)

Plagues  (Wash your hands!)  Pestis = Hungarian 

Epidemia - Epidemic

Any illness that was the cause of many people to die was called plague, so Covid-19 would be considered a Plague.  Though we understand what caused some of these today, such as unsanitary conditions, bad water, fleas, some forms of plague are still not understood.

Typhus - (According to the CDC of the United States) Typhus fevers are a group of diseases caused by bacteria that are spread to humans by fleas, lice, and chiggers. Typhus fevers include murine typhus, epidemic typhus, and scrub typhus.  Fleas spread murine typhus, body lice spread epidemic typhus, and chiggars spread scrub typhus.

Cholera - (According to the CDC of the United States) Cholera is a bacterial disease spread through contaminated water and food. Cholera can cause severe diarrhea, dehydration, and even death if the disease goes untreated.  People living in places with unsafe drinking water, poor sanitation, and inadequate hygiene are at highest risk of cholera.  (kolera = Hungarian)

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Provisus - provisions made for burial.  Often the name of the priest who performed Last Rites is given. 

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THE FIVE MOST BEAUTIFUL CEMETERIES IN BUDAPEST ! EXCELLENT ARTICLE FROM WE LOVE BUDAPEST

WE LOVE BUDAPEST : FIVE MOST BEAUTIFUL CEMETERIES 

Excerpts:

Farkasréti from 1894

Violets, fresh air and tranquillity surround the names of the famous Hungarians on these gravestones. It may sound morbid, but beautiful Farkasréti Cemetery, in a lovely natural setting, is a fine place for an autumn walk. This is the largest of its kind in Buda and the last resting place of composers Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, as well as many revered actors and not so revered politicians.  ...

Kerepesi from 1847

Kerepsi Cemetery houses the graves and magnificent mausoleums of the most notable Hungarians.  Many are true works of art adorned with ornate sculptures, frescos, and mosaics... The most grandiose funeral of the Dual Monarchy was that of the most emblematic figure of the Revolution, Lajoz Kossuth, governor of the Kingdom of Hungary during the fight for freedom.  After 1849, Kossuth emigrated and lived the rest of his life abroad.  His ashes were brought to Budapest and buried at Kerepesi.  His strikingly adorned mausoleum is still the grandest piece of funereal architecture in Hungary. 

Kozma utca  from 1893

The Jewish Cemetery on Kozma utca opened alongside Új köztemető (New Public Cemetery) in 1893. It is currently the largest Jewish cemetery in Hungary, the last resting place for around 300,000 people. It also holds priceless architectural treasures, unfortunately some in extremely poor condition. ... Families of the Jewish elite are buried in ornate mausoleums near the cemetery walls, such as the Schmidl mausoleum decorated with Zsolnay ceramics, and the Gries mausoleum, with mosaics by the equally renowned Miksa Roth.

Salgótarjáni utca from 1874

Opened in 1874, this cemetery alongside Kerepesi provides a comprehensive picture of Jewish emancipation in Hungary and the social and artistic life of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Prominent figures here include influential entrepreneur Manfréd Weiss, Unicum pioneer József Zwack and Moritz Wahrmann, a leading figure in the development of Budapest in the 1800s. Among the designers of the tombs are the greatest architects of the day.

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SACRIFICE CAULDRON UNCOVERED : EURASIAN STEPPE CULTURE of ANCIENT HUNS : MOUND BURIAL BUILDERS

MKI GOV HUNGARY : SACRIFICIAL CAULDRAN : ANCIENT HUNS  It's a rare, thousand year old cauldron, and it's also about diplomatic relations. 

Excerpt: When an excavation area is designated, there's no way of knowing what the burial sites are hiding.  But usually the chances of finding such a wonderful find are slim.  Indeed, after the fall of the Hun Empire, the Chinese emperors supported and sometimes even financed the looting of Hun graves.  On the one hand, they were after the gold and treasures, and on the other, they were seeking to eliminate scared sites that had played an important role in the identity of the people living there.  The imprint of this today is that almost all the Hun tombs are in plundered state.  That is why we had great luck with the excavation of the Asian Hun cemetery at Ar Gunti.  Here we found unmolested graves, and in one of them the amazing artefact we have just unpacked.

- Let me add,"the Ambassador resumes, "that these graves are easy to find and rob because the tombs are still visible on the surface, in the form of stone and earth piles that have been standing for thousands, sometimes two thousand years.

- Such burials were very common among the steppe peoples. From the Scythians to the Cumans it was customary that the more important the ruler, the more soil was brought to the tomb from distant parts of the empire, and the higher the mound was under which the ruler could rest in eternal sleep. We have such tombs in the area of Százhalombatta, for example. That's why the name of the town translates into English as 'hundred mounds' explained the Director-General.

SAINT STEPHEN'S DAY

 

THE OFFICIAL WORD ON CIVIL RECORDS (VITAL RECORDS) TO BE ORDERED FROM HUNGARY : HUNGARIAN CEMETERIES , READING DEATH RECORDS, GENEALOGY RESEARCH IN HUNGARY #2

In 1895 Hungary began to require civil records (also called vital records) of deaths, marriages, and births to be kept by the government. Before that, records were to be kept by Christian churches or Jewish temples. You may be able to get both is some cases.

Privacy laws in Hungary are not the same as in the United States. Birth registers are kept closed for 90 (ninety) years. Marriage registers are kept closed for 60 (sixty) years.  Death registers are closed for 30 (thirty) years. 

And what you can order from Hungary also has to do with the map, because Hungary can only send you what is available in PRESENT DAY HUNGARY.  So you may have to find records now housed in another country.

LA CONSULATE GENERAL OF HUNGARY on ORDERING CIVIL RECORDS INCLUDING DOWNLOADABLE FORMS

If your Hungarian ancestors lived in what is now SLOVAKIA, you have to deal with Slovakia.  The site I'm linking to gives extensive information and is the work of Bill Tarkilich, to whom we are grateful.  IABSI -SLOVAKIA BILL

You may also find that your Hungarian ancestor lived in a place that became Yugoslavia, Austria, Romania... I did run into a problem when trying to retrieve Baptismal records (as a stand in for civil records) for a friend whose "Italian" family was in what was considered Yugoslavia, at the time of her grandfather's birth. The Diocese archive we contacted (in Italy) during Covid did not respond to us at all, the records were not in the Latter Day Saint's FamilySeach collection, and the local consulate was also unhelpful. She wanted Italian citizenship based on that grandfather, and I was unable to find out if Italy considers the course of history when identifying someone as Italian...

That said, it is possible that, though the place where someone was when they died is now in another country, their death record is still held by a diocese that was in Hungary at the time.

FamilySearch does have some civil death records in its database and I find searching by location is a first step.

So - If you have a very long-lived ancestor, you may just be in luck to find that when they died the civil registration was in place.  And on that death record there just might be the marriage or parentage you seek, either a confirmation of such OR new information. The civil death records also have addresses.  These may not align with current addresses...  You might want to ask when you get to tour the village!

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OLD TIME CUSTOMS OF HUNGARIAN BURIAL FROM BLASSA-ORTUTAY : EXCELLENT!

MEK OSZK HU : BLASSA-ORTUTAY HUNGARIAN ETHNIC BURIAL CUSTOMS Read this and be informed!

Excerpt: The burial of young men and girls who were brides- and grooms-to-be resembled a wedding in many aspects. Although there were no best men, the girls and young men walked on both sides of the coffin dressed as for a wedding. Thus among the Csángós of Hétfalu (former Brassó County) they sang the following while the coffin was carried out of the house by the maids and young men of honour:

I am too a bridegroom [or a bride]
Ready for to go soon.
Folk come here a-treading
To a woeful wedding.
I was once a flower,
But I won’t bloom ever
Laid at rest in coffin.
In my parents’ garden
I was once a flower,
Rose that won’t bloom ever,
For the Reaper cut me
When a youth unwary
With His net He snared me,
And won’t have me living,
Here I must be leaving.

Hétfalu (former Brassó County)

NEW SERIES : HUNGARIAN CEMETERIES : READING DEATH RECORDS, GENEALOGY RESEARCH IN HUNGARY #1

Hello my readers!  

I've decided to post genealogy research tips interspersed with some reportage on cemeteries in Hungary and the history of burials. We'll explore a bit together and it's my hope that by the end of this series, you will know much more about this subject.

This icon of an casket being pulled to the cemetery by horse and special cart will stand for the tag Hungary Death Records - Gen Tips, and when you click on that tag, it will bring up all the posts in the series.

In recent months I've made the most of using church death records to go back one more generation when the paper trail available for birth/baptism and marriages is not enough. I've written about using "house number" studies, before, and that has certainly been part of my personal research too. It was a labor of love to spend very many hours culling the death records for two villages that referred me to yet another, as the land was split among sons and some tenant farmers eventually inherited plots. I put together family groups and looked for the common ancestors among them, hoping there would be a reference or remark on one of the younger children's marriages that would help me identify who was whose father - and thus the father of the oldest child as well.

Of course, it would be interesting to take a trip to those villages and find tombstones that clearly identify some of the people on my charts. If they still stand or ever existed.

Are cemeteries in Hungary much different than American?

If you're an American, your notions about cemeteries may be about the cemetery your family uses, or perhaps the ones in your area, some which may not have markers, or simply small flat stones to identify the graves. Or maybe you know of a military cemetery in which the troops all have the same marker. I know of a cemetery in Santa Cruz where the single people were buried separately from the married, and where a small spot was for the Chinese.

Grave yards in Hungary in modern times have followed a rather predictable path that American grave yards have. People were buried on their own farmstead or where they fell in conflict. People were buried around a church. Or in a graveyard in which members were of a specific religion. As population increased and room around the church ran out, there was a movement into "park" settings, in which monuments could be larger and artistic. The public were encouraged to spend some time and stroll around to enjoy the scenery, even if they personally did not have any family buried there. 

But what is different is the history of The States and that of Hungary, for unlike Hungary, we have not had World War I or World War II, on our land, nor have we been punished for World War II involvement by loosing two thirds of our country's land. Yes, we did have wars, including the Civil War, in which many fell in battle, but you know that was not the same as the Holocaust. 

These days...

I have mixed feelings about tombstone projects. I believe that respecting the privacy of the dead is also about respecting the privacy of the living. Genealogy is about the past, our HERITAGE, and those connected to the dead who are alive should have their privacy respected.

Maybe the information doesn't feel so sensitive until you begin to see what I consider violations, such as people being allowed to put actual death certificates up to match the tombstone which give cause of death and more. I was outraged when I saw that being done at a popular tombstone search site. I'm feeling that cemeteries and burials - the whole funeral business - is becoming outrageous in costs.

So many people today are choosing cremation because the whole funeral business in the United States is financially burdensome and cremation is less expensive. There is also that some cemeteries actually consider the burial space you "bought" to be a rental and, when no family member can be located or afford to re-rent, have been known to "move" (loose) bodies.

A few years ago I had the death certificate of a woman who died in 1920 in the U.S. in hand and called the cemetery identified on it. The person I spoke with denied she was buried there and even suggested that the family might have "tried to do the right thing" by showing up with shovels in the night and putting her into the earth themselves. !!!  Then there was talk about how the place had been flooded and an old employee would have to be asked since maybe he would know where the grave was. When I said I had the death certificate and was calling to know where the grave was because some relatives from Texas wanted to pay respects, there was silence. I was requested to send the death certificate...  And the same man tried to suggest that when the grave was found, a new marker be put on it, which would cost $20,000... I could not believe what I was hearing.

So my genealogy quest hit into a sales spiel. I sent the death certificate (which mentioned the name of the undertaker, a business that was still in business into the 1970's) as well as the cemetery) and never heard back...

Oh how I felt for that woman who had been buried there, who had died at 26 of cancer, after having given birth to two children and who was likely quite sick when she gave birth to the second one. I wondered when last anyone had visited the grave. But perhaps visiting graves is not something people do much, not even on Memorial Day. Perhaps even those graves with expensive tombstones or markers go unvisited.  Do cemetery employees notice which graves have been "attended" by family?  I think they do.

To me, $20,000 on a tombstone is ridiculous. That's better spent on someone's college education.  And so I do not anticipate burial or a tombstone for myself.

But back to genealogy. I also have a sort of reverence for the people who came before me and who I would not know about if it were not for the research. I always research around the person, so I can better understand the kind of life they must have lead, and with that, the kind of life span and death. The priests in the villages were very busy people. I showed copies of a death register from the early 1800's to a friend who is an anti-vaxer and said "This is a testimonial to the need for childhood vaccines."

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