Showing posts with label Hungarian Databases. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hungarian Databases. Show all posts

Wednesday, January 12, 2022

LOOKING AT AN ARCHIVAL DOCUMENT GENETEKA - USING THE POLISH GENEALOGY SOCIETY DATABASE for RESEARCH : GENEALOGY PRO TIP #2

LOOKING AT AN ARCHIVAL DOCUMENT  GENETEKA - USING THE POLISH GENEALOGY SOCIETY DATABASE for RESEARCH : GENEALOGY PRO TIP #2

GENETEKA GENEALOGY POLAND  the important link!

PROS :

1) Your need to read Polish is minimal because like many church records in Europe, LATIN is used.

2) If you can get through some handwriting hazards, there are good Latin- English and Latin - Polish reference books at the library or on-line translators!  You will soon learn a Derelictus is simply a widow- not a worthless bum!

3) The columns or categories are generally obvious, be it that you are looking for marriages, deaths, or births.

4) You'll have to be patient for indexing is an ongoing project, one you may want to get involved with. So if an index helps you get to the person you're looking for, well, you can still get to the records from there.  If your ancestor doesn't come right up in the index, but you have some information from immigration documents such as from the steamship, draft registration, or citizenship papers, you might want to start by reading the records from that place.

5) Get maps and descriptions of villages easily on-line to help you understand your ancestor's geographic and cultural world. Begin with the link above that lists the 21 "Provinces" of today's Poland and record coverage.

CONS :

1) There are missing records that will not ever be indexed because they are simply missing. This is because they were never collected, they were ruined by fire, flood, or some other disaster, or because of war, particularly World War II. Still start out hopeful.  (Great Grandma may have been born up in the mountains in the winter and her baptism may have been by midwife (common) and /or not reported at all.)

2) *** Some records you will find twice, in two different handwritings.  This is because a small local church might keep a record and then report it to the main parish.  It's helpful when one of these records is neatly written.  BE AWARE THAT FOR SOME REASON THE COPIES MAY NOT BE IDENTICAL and that you should look at both because some pages may be missing from the original books or the copy.

3) If you have the misfortune of finding a paper - such as a typed letter - tape - over the exact part of the book page you want - you can still write to the archive and ask someone to look under there!  Sometimes there were two images taken - the paper moved for one of them.

4) Watch for the naming of other locations when reading records such as where the bride or groom was born or lives at this time.  Nat. is an abbreviation for native.  It loosely means the person was born there but in general it means that person has lived there a long time.  Just like you might be born in Chicago but have moved to Denver 30 years ago. You stopped telling people you are from Chicago long ago.

5) You may be wondering why the person writing the record - usually the priest - has such an interest in what a person's ancestry and legitimacy is...  Be blessed that they actually wrote so much because you'll have the names of another generation back quickly.  Yes, in some records, especially way back, there may be missing information on the baptism. Such as the name of the mother.  (I hate that!)  The inclusion of the name of the midwife in both Christian and Jewish records intrigues me.  I think it was to say "This person knows this baby belongs to this mother!"

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This post is part of a series on the subject.  To pull all the topics up, click on the tag Pro Genealogy Tips - Galicia

Saturday, January 8, 2022

GENETEKA - USING THE POLISH GENEALOGY SOCIETY DATABASE for RESEARCH - LET'S GET STARTED : GENEALOGY PRO TIP #1

GENETEKA - USING THE POLISH GENEALOGY SOCIETY DATABASE for RESEARCH - LET'S GET STARTED : GENEALOGY PRO TIP #1

This post is part of a series on the subject.  To pull all the topics up, click on the tag Genealogy Tips - Galicia

Some of you who have Hungarian ancestry also have Polish ancestry, or/and Slovak or Ruthenian or Jewish or well, a "mixed" ethnic ancestry due to intermarriage in Europe or here in America. One of the main reasons a person may want to research using GENETEKA is that Galicia - a portion of Poland before and after the Austrian-Hungarian Empire - is part of this database. A challenge to all "Eastern European" research is the change of governments and borders.

I want to guide you in this research as I have in the past so those of you who read MAGYAR-AMERICAN BLOGSPOT for the genealogy tips and history should be interested in this.

GENETEKA is a volunteer driven group in Poland, the Polish Genealogical Society, and so it is a database in progress. SCANS link to exact pages or to other archives where you will personally scan through more images to get to what you want at other sites.  (There are also opportunities to post or reach indexers which do not translate into English.)

I want to assure you that when you begin to read church records closer to the shared border, you will find some surnames that are not Polish as well as mentions of places in Hungary, in particular if you are researching in a town known for a market, or for export or import of crops or wines.  You may also find some village names that are Hungarian because those villages were part of a parish system of keeping records. 

Merchants in particular seem to have found reason to marry in a Polish parish, having found their love there.*

You may also find reference to men who were in the military - The Austrian army - during the period of time when Austria ruled.

On occasion you will find mention of conversions, generally Jewish to Catholic.

And you will be challenged because there were significant intermarriages between Greek Catholics and Roman Catholics.

So take a look at the site and we'll begin!

THIS LINK IS TO A MAP GENETEKA GENEALOG Y POLAND

Here are some examples found reading the DUKLA, POLAND PARISH which includes several smaller settlements.

Scan 19 of 184 has the 1850 remarriage of Julianna Btazek, the daughter of Joannes Rajet and Mariann Sencel who is a native of Hungaria - the village is named but I can't make it out.  She is 52 and marrying a widower who is 60, Martin Gotezinski,

There is also the marriage of Josepha Catharina Bacr?  who was born in Falkessa (Kassa?) Bohemia.

* Note added Feb 3 2022. I'm also coming across a number of ex military men in their thirties marrying young women after exiting the military.

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This post is part of a series on the subject.  To pull all the topics up, click on the tag Pro Genealogy Tips - Galicia


Saturday, May 12, 2018

ADATBAZISUKONLINE from HUNGARY - NATIONAL ARCHIVES OF HUNGARY GENEALOGY DATABASES

ADATBAZISUK DATABASE LINK - NATIONAL ARCHIVES OF HUNGARY


I wish I could say that there's a translator for the actual documents embedded in the site, but for now you can go to the categories in five different languages including English as linked above.


I've added this to my GENEALOGY RESEARCH LINKS ON THE SIDEBAR